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elvisduffy

Multiple posts on SL

So when I post text or tip it's often repeated multiple times. If I buy something, I often purchase 3 or more of the same item. My multiple posts look like a speech impediment. Anyone heard of this or how to stop it?

I'm on a macbook pro

Thanks in advance

Elvis
ticious

Re: Multiple posts on SL

elvisduffy wrote:
So when I post text or tip it's often repeated multiple times. If I buy something, I often purchase 3 or more of the same item. My multiple posts look like a speech impediment. Anyone heard of this or how to stop it?


I"m not convinced this is the Mac.  I've encountered quite a few people with that stutter.  Someone once told me it was due to a wireless connection of some sort. . . but as to the truth or falsehoodness of that, I can't attest.
Silas Scarborough

You might want to run Windows on the Mac.  I do it because I don't like using the CMD key with the Mac version of SL.  Since you're undoubtedly using Nicecast, etc for streaming, you'd want to run VMware so you can run Mac OS and Windows at the same time.  I'm not sure that a MacBook Pro would have enough juice for that, tho.  Can anyone comment?

I have VMware but I'm not currently running it.  I'm only scheduling as many gigs as my shoulders can tolerate so maybe I'll crank it up and get a report for you that way Smile
elvisduffy

I'm too chiken to put windows on my machine. Maybe it's the wireless thing. (my knees are knokin')
Mambo

never had this problem,  !00%mac and usually wireless.   if you got an ethernet cable plugh your MBP into the router see if it solves the problem
Silas Scarborough

elvisduffy wrote:
I'm too chiken to put windows on my machine. Maybe it's the wireless thing. (my knees are knokin')


This much I can tell you for sure:  Running Windows on a Mac Quad Pro runs vastly better and is significantly more stable than it ever was running on a PC with an AMD Athlon X2 in it.  The PC crashed daily, at least, typically due to driver problems and all software was as up-to-date as possible.  Windows on the Mac has never crashed and I've been running it for months.  I also have very few SL crashes and client-side lag is improved as well because it's a more powerful machine than the PC.

So, no worries on that front.  Windows not only works on a Mac; in fact, it works better.
elvisduffy

I just got a cable modem hooked up to the laptop. Seems better at first rez in. I'll let ya know if I stopping crashing mid performance and stuttering in all my posts Very Happy
Norris Shepherd

Hey Elvis.. you mean those times I heard you, you were playing through a wireless connection?  Did you stream from a computer that was hooked up wirelessly?

If answer is yes.. would HIGHLY recommend finding an ethernet cable (as long as needed) to plug in when you play.

I would even recommend disabling the wireless option on your router/modem while you are playing.

There's just way too many things that can interfere with the wireless signal.... and sometimes even if you are plugged into the router, the wireless can still cause connectivity problems. (ex.  a cordless phone rings, interferes with wireless, hangs up your router.. even though you are plugged into router.. you still lose your internet connection)

And SL is such a bandwith/processor hog.. than any little problem is sure to send it into fits.  So best to get rid of as many variables as possible.

My opinion only, of course... Smile
Silas Scarborough

Norris Shepherd wrote:
Hey Elvis.. you mean those times I heard you, you were playing through a wireless connection?  Did you stream from a computer that was hooked up wirelessly?

If answer is yes.. would HIGHLY recommend finding an ethernet cable (as long as needed) to plug in when you play.


Everything you need to know about wireless you can learn from using a cellphone!

Eh?

What did you say??

Sorry, you're breaking up!!

Oh, ok.  You want to meet in the park and get naked?

Gee, sorry.  You want your book back.

Ok, got it
Zak Claxton

Elvis, you definitely want to use the Ethernet cable any time you can, as opposed to AirPort. It has to do with packet delivery over the wire versus through the air. If it's at all possible, plug that baby in.

And yes, I'm also on a 2.4Ghz MacBook Pro.
BabbleGrabble

Elvis, thanks for all the xtra tips, man. I thought you were kidding around the whole time. I hope I can return the favor soon.
Silas Scarborough

Zak's right.  Fewer packet delivery retries over cable vs over air so inevitably faster / more reliable performance.
elvisduffy

Hey Babble, worry not about the tips. I'm most concerned about annoying folks. The wired connection seem to have fixed it.

But,,,,,,, I still get stone frozen crashes. But, hey, that's progress.
Silas Scarborough

Woot Elvis!

I'm really wondering about how VMware would do on a MacBook Pro.  If anyone has responded to that, I apologize.  I'm just so blown away by the stability of Windows and SL on the Mac that'd it be worth the seventy or eighty bucks for VMware Fusion to put the problem away and get back to the jams.

I don't think it's unrealistic as Nicecast needs some juice but not all that much.  Depending on what you're using for audio, you could be sucking up quite a bit.  I'll guess GarageBand as I get one hell of a kick out using it for live.  Any dynamic changes GB or whatever is making to the track can cost you huge cycles and that's anywhere from simply panning from side to side or hitting it, especially, with an effects processor like Guitar Rig.  If you're doing anything like that then you might well into compute problems.

Within SL, you could, for the sake of a gig, minimize cycles by disabling particles and generally dumbing down your SL graphics.  The more client-side processing SL is doing, the more likely the computer ends up going down a wormhole when it runs out of cycles.  You know Macs, it won't crash, but it won't be very much fun to use at all.

One other huge perk from VMware Fusion is that I'm pretty sure it can capture a snapshot of the virtual system image and save it for close to instant Windows start-ups without being invasive to OS X at all.  That's some pretty smart code but it'd be positively brilliant if it can capture a snapshot with applications running.  Damn hackers are sissyboys next to people who can write code like that.  I've been writing code for a long time and I'm definitely impressed.

Wise guys may be thinking, what's the big deal when you can disable the Windows process, write the memory it owns to disk and *whizzo* you've got an instant-loading OS.  Mebbe so.  Mebbe so.

(I'm figuring this isn't altogether a hijack but Elvis has his bug fixed so might as well run with other potentials for a bit.)
elvisduffy

I've started reading about VMware on their site. If that's the solution it'll have to do. Not too excited about the Windows thing as I've never used it at all. Somehow that sounds like it's gonna cost $ to buy software for Windows, which I don't really want to have to learn.

But, there's been many things I've had to do in the name of progress and stability.

fwiw I'm sending a full mix into an MBox into Nicecast. SL runs on the same computer. Not running any other audio app like Garageband on that machine.

Yep, Norris, untill today all my shows have been wireless. I didn't lose the Nicecast signal with the wire, but I did have a total screen freeze up. I found info about Macbooks having that problem but my vid card wasn't the same as the supposed offenders.

It's a bit of a hijack from the multiple posts, but it's still Mac related.


Cool
FionaSzondi

VMWare should run fine on a MBP, as long as you have at least 2GB of RAM.

Is SL really that much more stable running on Windows on a Mac? Hmm. I was under the impression that most of the issues w/SL on Mac were from the video card driver. Hey, but who's going to argue with it if it works, huh? Smile

Also, do all y'all know of the workaround for the MBP video card driver? Let me find the link...it's the only way I can run SL on my MBP and NOT cause a full-system freeze requiring a hard restart. Finding the link... Found it, and it apparently is regarding the 2007 MBP with the GeForce 8600M GT graphics chip only, but I'll post it anyway. Maybe it will help someone! http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/M...o_2007_Graphics_Freeze_Workaround

Course, the other workaround is to get one of the sexy NEW MBPs. Wink

Wow, not a musical sentence in this comment. Eek.
Silas Scarborough

I ran Windows on a PC for about a year during which time the motherboard had to be replaced, software stability was neglible, and keeping the box cool was almost impossible.

Running Windows on a Mac bypasses all that stupid BIOS flak that's part of a Windows boot so you get the system up faster and it's more stable once it's running.  There's no way I'd ever consider running Windows on a standard PC box again.

I've got VMWare but I don't run it as I don't want Windows getting even the faintest chance of contaminating OS X.  When I'm done with SL, I boot back into OS X, Windows disappears, and it turns into a real computer again.
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