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A SL band: is it possible?
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Komuso Tokugawa



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done a number of ninjam gigs in SL.

You can check out some videos of the ambient electronica audiovisual gigs with Moshang Zhao [he's playing from Taiwan and me in Tokyo] in the SynaesthAsia post on http://www.sonicviz.com/music/members/6/blog.php

Hathead Rickenbacker and I also just ran a very successful live test gig today of our new ninjam based blues set at his dual sim venue in SL.
Hathead's playing piano from Toronto and I'm playing guitar/harp/rhythms from Tokyo. Feedback from audience was extremely positive.

There's a few tricks imo to using ninjam well.
RL jamming experience and the ability to listen are key criteria, as is an open mind to working with the latency and spending some time to rehearse musical techniques and communication that work with this particular technology.

You can't beat physics, especially when playing from different continents - at least not anytime in the next decade I predict.

But the end result is IT DOES WORK if you invest a the time to work with it and understand how you may best play with it..in that respect it is no different from rehearsing a rl based band.
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Mambo



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Foxy and I are on Mac, Tom &  vic are on PCs  & the Ninjam server is hosted with a service provider. Is also worth noting we all Run SL on an different computer.

Ningam works well,  once you get your head around the way the measures work,  but it dose stop you from doing hard changes  like bridges and breaks.
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Mimi Carpenter



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:42 pm    Post subject: 3 members band Reply with quote

I did my first gig by 3 with Maximillion Kleene and Dolmere Talmasca yesterday, with relaycasting/daisy-chained streaming.
We had fun and will do it again for sure. We played 5 songs all together.
Max (Canada) was sending his sound to me (Germany), then i was playing over and sending the mix to Dol (US) who was playing the bass over it and sending the whole to the Bay's stream.
That's amazing and a really pleasant experience to share. We listened to the recording and the result was quite satisfying. The audience seemed to be delighted too.
Can't wait to do it again!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Mimi, Max and I have been doing in-world lately I refer to as "Relaycasting". I think that Slim, Silas and others refer to it as "metajamming". I prefer the former term as I think it better describes the process.

Sam Hokin and Flaming Moe were likely the first to use this technique back in 2005. You can read about it and download their performance at Astrin/Sam's website: <a href="http://www.bsharp.org/sam/music/AstrinFew/index.html">http://www.bsharp.org/sam/music/AstrinFew/index.html</a>

It's not perfect by any means but it does allow a form of collaboration that can be fun for all parties.

FYI - this Saturday March 22nd we'll be performing another relaycast. This time instead of Mimi and I "sitting in" on one of Max's shows we've managed to put some planning behind it:

Dolmere Talamasca will be live at the SoHo stage with a special mid-set treat. Dol will be joined by his bandmates Mimi Carpenter and Max Kleene. As an added bonus Mimi will remain at her show at Nitida Ridge and Max will remain at his show at the Bellagio. All three audiences on all three separate sims will be able to listen in to this special relaycast event!
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BabbleGrabble



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is really, really, really flippin' cool, dolmere.
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Toby Lancaster



Joined: 23 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:37 am    Post subject: Re: A SL band: is it possible? Reply with quote

Jojamela Soon wrote:

I spoke with Marco inworld and referred him to this forum,   He didn't say it in his original question, but one of the things he asked is if it was possible to jam with other musicians using voice (not streaming)

Have any of you tried it?   does it work?  I was thinking along the lines of a back porch jam, not necessarily a concert.


I've had some great times jamming in Voice. Sometimes the latency is negligable. It's not reliable enough for a normal audience, can be really flaky sometimes, but is still great fun.

Anyone tried using eJamming or JamNOW and streaming that into SL?
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