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Komuso Tokugawa · Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Posts: 88 Location: Tokyo, Japan

My 2 cents...as I used to use Cubase VST 32 and Cubase LE extensively:

a) Ditch Cubase and use http://www.cockos.com/reaper/
b) Free vst reverb? Any of the following:
http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/classic-series.php
http://www.dasample.com/index.php?show=glaceverb
Ambience :
http://magnus.smartelectronix.com/
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Jambalaya · Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 238

+1 for Reaper. Wink

Then you can ditch Winamp as well.

If you need VST plugins these are good:

http://www.jeroenbreebaart.com/audio_vst.htm

There's also the Gersic.com plugin database - at the moment, though, it seems to be down - maybe he's working on the site or something. It is a really extensive collection of links to freeware plugins.

http://www.gersic.com/plugins

Norris Shepherd · Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:08 pm Post subject:

Cool. Thanks for the input on VST's. Also, I had seen mention of Reaper somewhere else in this forum... but it looks like it's got more than a few supporters.

It's downloaded, and waiting to be installed.. added to the list of audio to-do's.

Also, SanityInn sent me these links to a bunch of VST free plugins.

http://www.recording.org/ftopict-19107.html

http://www.recording.org/ftopict-12877.html

Now I have lots more toys to play with and try out....

vonjohin · Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Posts: 458 Location: Nashville, TN

EDIT: I missed the part where "non commercial use is $50" for the software. "Non-commercial use" as defined here, refers to the use of this software for the production of your own content, not for the purpose of making money. So if you use the software and make money from using it, like producing tracks to play with in SL, I think you'd technically violate that.

Which Cubase are you using?

I'm a Mac guy, and I don't know Reaper, but I gotta ask, why wouldn't you just upgrade to Cubase 4 Studio for $199 rather than go with Reaper? Cubase 4 is astounding in its function and value. At $225 it seems a lot for a "non standard" program when you can get a competitive upgrade in Cubase for $199..

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pr...mp;ZYXSEM=0&CAWELAID=71342069

I think the audio engine in Steinberg's Cubase and Nuendo is stunning, personally. Its cross-platform,comes with 46 great plugins, all the VST stuff you find for free works with it, plus 4 software synths. I don't know the reverb from it you're referring to, but the ones that come with Cubase 4 sound pretty good to me. I've got 4 here, and think the new interface, etc. is really intuitive.

I've never used Reaper, I can't comment on it. I just know that if your experience with Cubase before was the bad old days of VST 32 and LE, you're definitely missing the boat with how well the new software functions and sounds.

The reviews seem great, and I'm curious to see its routing features from the one review. I think I'll download Reaper to play with on my Windows drive on the Mac Pro. I can't resist. I just love studio toys. Smile

Komuso Tokugawa · Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Posts: 88 Location: Tokyo, Japan

I still use Cubase LE [had vst 32, but LE came with my audio interface and MFX] to do the occasional project, but finally reached my limit on gouging software companies [and I'm a software engineer myself] that continually release bug ridden products with crap support.

Cubase 4 may finally be the stable Holy Grail...but I'm afraid they had already lost me as a customer before they releases the latest version - and I'd been one since 1997.

No more money to Steinberg...I'll put it towards a company that is lightweight, responsive and innovative.
Everything I've seen about Reaper so far fits the bill there!

I'd probably go Sonar now if I really wanted to invest in a higher end commercial package with all the bells and whistles that Reaper may be missing at the moment. The good thing about Reaper is it does do pretty much everything you need at a very very competitive price point from a team of very seasoned audio pros.
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vonjohin · Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Posts: 458 Location: Nashville, TN

Sonar is wonderful. Absolutely wonderful. Can't see a Windows-based system not using that, really. Cubase is really good now, too. I mean really, really good. But Sonar.... wow. They hack packed some amazing things in there and Digidesign could learn a lot from them.