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Doubledown Tandino
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Jambalaya
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Interesting - maybe I'll try this sometime. 
For our uses, though, REAPER is still the best way. I'd rather record our sets pre-encoder, rather than have only a stereo MP3. |
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Komuso Tokugawa
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Jambalaya wrote: | Interesting - maybe I'll try this sometime.
For our uses, though, REAPER is still the best way. I'd rather record our sets pre-encoder, rather than have only a stereo MP3. |
I find recording and listening to your performances is critical for learning and improving, not so much for making masters.
I use Reaper as well for SL Live, but afaik you can only record into wav format in multi track realtime, which means you need a lot of hard drive space if you record every gig.
A 1 hour gig at 256kbps mp3 is ~110mb, so it adds up quickly if you play a lot.
I have about 30gb of sl gigs floating around now. I was recording at 320kbps but have dropped to 256 recently as a quality/space compromise.
Ninjam however records sessions as ogg and then gives you the option to load the project render as wav, which is pretty efficient in terms of space.
Would be good if you could do same for regular reaper sessions, unless I've missed something.
trots off to RTFM...
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Komuso Tokugawa
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:49 am Post subject: |
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| Silas Scarborough wrote: | | Komuso Tokugawa wrote: | | Silas Scarborough wrote: |
b) Nicecast, like SAM Broadcaster, is overkill for many streaming situations especially for live musicians using a DAW setup and pro outboard audio interface. Suggest your read the bloated feature set for nicecast. |
What rubbish is this! To get streaming, I launch the app, verify the list of stream configurations to make sure I'm starting the right one, click connect....I'm done.
It's not clear what you perceive as bloated. The only component I don't use much is the server but I use and require every other aspect of the program. One-button recording and the like is bloat? I thought I read you wishing for just that, um, bloated feature a few posts back.
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re: bloatware
http://www.rogueamoeba.com/nicecast/features.php
very similar to SAM broadcaster
http://www.spacialaudio.com/?page=sam-broadcaster-matrix
ie: bloatware for MY usage context - see next point
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Simplecast on the PC does a fantastic job actually - I just want something even more simpler for my useage context. |
Your 'useage context???' Cripes, man, the corporation is eating your brain! That ain't English.
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ah..yes it is English I'm afraid. My application use cases/useage context [ie: context of use in application development terminology] are different from yours and others.
It's not corporation speak...it's porfeshnul developer speak for analysing the end users needs/wants for applications of any size, from individuals to teh Evul Korporations.
I don't need all the features of SAM/Nicecast etc. While they CAN do all that BUTT does, I don't need it. I did use simplecast for a long time, decided to see if there were any new apps out there, did some googoogling and came across BUTT. Like what I saw, wrote it up, spread teh word.
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c) re: pc vs mac debate YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNN
Reality is they are both great platforms for Audio with many easy to use hardware/software combinations [Sorry to bust your "mac rulz" bubble their Bigguy], and they both have strong and weak points in different usage contexts. To say otherwise is complete bs.
However, if you need to feel superior because you bought a mac, whatever...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
Nah, I just pump up Macs to share the enthusiasm. I lost all feelings of superiority when the kingdom was usurped by the Chinese and my family had to live on rivercraft for some years before we could make our way to freedom. |
uh, yeah...whatever. Welcome to the real world.
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Jambalaya
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Komuso Tokugawa wrote: | | Jambalaya wrote: | Interesting - maybe I'll try this sometime.
For our uses, though, REAPER is still the best way. I'd rather record our sets pre-encoder, rather than have only a stereo MP3. |
I find recording and listening to your performances is critical for learning and improving, not so much for making masters.
I use Reaper as well for SL Live, but afaik you can only record into wav format in multi track realtime, which means you need a lot of hard drive space if you record every gig.
A 1 hour gig at 256kbps mp3 is ~110mb, so it adds up quickly if you play a lot.
I have about 30gb of sl gigs floating around now. I was recording at 320kbps but have dropped to 256 recently as a quality/space compromise.
Ninjam however records sessions as ogg and then gives you the option to load the project render as wav, which is pretty efficient in terms of space.
Would be good if you could do same for regular reaper sessions, unless I've missed something.
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The "About" page at Cockos says: "Direct multi-track recording to many formats including WAV/BWF/W64, AIFF, WavPack, FLAC, OGG, and MIDI." So apparently you can. 
I prefer it not only for multitracking performances but also because the stream quality has a lot of artifacts too. we usually stream at 96k to keep things comfortable for most clients, but that's about the lowest you can stream without it sounding like utter crap IMHO. If you're not interested in releasing them them it doesn't matter much, but if you are it's better to have the higher-quality files - if you have the disk space of course.
FLAC is awesome for cutting file size while keeping full fidelity. I've used it in the past for internet collabs, and you can cut the size of a WAV file significantly with no loss of quality. I like Ogg more than mp3, also. |
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Komuso Tokugawa
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| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| Jambalaya wrote: |
The "About" page at Cockos says: "Direct multi-track recording to many formats including WAV/BWF/W64, AIFF, WavPack, FLAC, OGG, and MIDI." So apparently you can.
I prefer it not only for multitracking performances but also because the stream quality has a lot of artifacts too. we usually stream at 96k to keep things comfortable for most clients, but that's about the lowest you can stream without it sounding like utter crap IMHO. If you're not interested in releasing them them it doesn't matter much, but if you are it's better to have the higher-quality files - if you have the disk space of course.
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ah..I see now. Doh. Project Settings/Audio Format for new recordings.
In any event the way I do it I'm not recording the stream that's going out to SL at 64K. I record it at 256k or 320k BEFORE that. BUTT will let you do that as well was my point - stream at one resolution and record at the same time at a higher one from the same input.
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Toby Lancaster
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Silas Scarborough
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| Komuso Tokugawa wrote: | ah..yes it is English I'm afraid. My application use cases/useage context [ie: context of use in application development terminology] are different from yours and others.
It's not corporation speak...it's porfeshnul developer speak for analysing the end users needs/wants for applications of any size, from individuals to teh Evul Korporations. |
Ah, you're thinking I'm a Colorado long-hair making a living designing ashtrays and pot pipes! And you would be exactly right so perhaps I can show you our new line of ashtray / pot pipe combinations. It's a great value at $19.95 but you must act now!
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