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elvisduffy

Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 192
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject: How much to tip? |
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I've been tipping 100 Lindens which I'm guessing in about 40 cents. That's got me wondering what's cheap, what's generous and what's normal? Any tip is good, right? But I don't want to insult ppl.
btw in RL I've stopped tipping Starbucks my change. That same $ might be more appreciated in SL. The cause is better imho. _________________ http://www.myspace.com/elvisduffy
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Zak Claxton

Joined: 16 Oct 2007 Posts: 2008 Location: Podul/33/243/154/
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: How much to tip? |
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| elvisduffy wrote: | | I've been tipping 100 Lindens which I'm guessing in about 40 cents. That's got me wondering what's cheap, what's generous and what's normal? Any tip is good, right? But I don't want to insult ppl. |
All new folks go through this thought process.
1. Tip an amount that you're comfortable with.
2. L$100 isn't a bad tip, ESPECIALLY for a relative new person like you. No one's going to be insulted by that. I often get L$20 (i.e., like $0.08 ) from new people, and that's fine.
3. After you start performing, you'll probably note that we musicians tend to tip each other well, or at least better than the average audience member. My typical tips are between L$200-$400 for the performer, and L$200-$300 for the venue. I'd probably tip more, but I see a lot of shows and I need to spread the wealth.  _________________
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Sally Silvera

Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 620 Location: at a music venue.... probably
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Elvis,
Yeah, what Zak said.
I'll add a couple of things as a pure listener....
In my case my tips might also depend on whether I see a particular performer regularly or rarely. So peeps I don't see play often will get a bigger tip on those occasions than musicians I see on a regular basis. Same goes for venues btw. I always hope folks kinda understand that one.
Also, like Zak, I have to spread it out a bit, given the sheer number of shows I see. I guess I figure somewhere along the line in due course over time and eventually I'll prolly have tipped each and everyone a reasonable amount.  _________________ my "shutter bug" (c Grace McDunnough) adventures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sallysilvera/
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ticious

Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Posts: 2114 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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I have folks who come to every show and tip my venue 50L every time (sometimes multiple times when they stay for multiple performers). Over the course of a month, it adds up. Nothing cheap about it. Any tip (especially to the venue, whom so many folks forget) is a great tip!!
But as for average? For a venue, at least my venues, it seems to be in the 100L to 500L range. And yeppers, the best tips come from musicians and other venue owners.
My Starbuck's change has been going into SL tips for a while now  _________________ Joy is in the ears that hear
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vonjohin

Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Posts: 458 Location: Nashville, TN
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:55 pm Post subject: Re: How much to tip? |
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| elvisduffy wrote: | I've been tipping 100 Lindens which I'm guessing in about 40 cents. That's got me wondering what's cheap, what's generous and what's normal? Any tip is good, right? But I don't want to insult ppl.
btw in RL I've stopped tipping Starbucks my change. That same $ might be more appreciated in SL. The cause is better imho. |
I tend to have very generous listeners, but I'm always as happy to get L$10 as I am L$100 or even L$1000. As for what I tip when I go out, it always varies, from nothing if the act is frankly terrible, or very generous if they knock me out. Same for the club. If they book somebody I find hard to listen to, I'm not tipping them much if anything at that particular show. If I love the act, I'll tend to be equally generous to the venue. |
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ticious

Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Posts: 2114 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject: Re: How much to tip? |
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[quote="vonjohin"] | elvisduffy wrote: | | If they book somebody I find hard to listen to, I'm not tipping them much if anything at that particular show. If I love the act, I'll tend to be equally generous to the venue. |
Do you consider the quality of the work of the venue staff or only the quality of the act they're booking? Just curious. I mean if the staff are surly, the place is ugly and laggy are you still generous? Flip side, if the staff are friendly and the environment is comfortable and fun, does that have any impact on how much you tip the venue? This goes to my whole thing about tip splitting . . . . I always figured the audience might want to tip the artist based on their quality AND then venue based on its quality. If I'm mistaken about that, I'll have to rethink my whole position on tip splitting.
Edited to add, and maybe on auto greeters also . . . _________________ Joy is in the ears that hear
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BabbleGrabble

Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 589 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Provided I can actually make it to a show and give it the full attention it deserves, I might tip a couple hundred Linden at a time, to spread it out over the show so that I can tip multiple times, both to the performer and to the venue; however, I hardly ever seem able to make it to a show for more than 10 minutes, so I don't go too often. For shorter durations, I've become a fan of tipping 333, thanks to Zak.
It might be cliché, but I still get a kick out of receiving multiple tips of 69. _________________
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Sally Silvera

Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 620 Location: at a music venue.... probably
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: How much to tip? |
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[quote="ticious"] | vonjohin wrote: | | I always figured the audience might want to tip the artist based on their quality AND then venue based on its quality. |
Yes.
......well, me anyways  _________________ my "shutter bug" (c Grace McDunnough) adventures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sallysilvera/
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vonjohin

Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Posts: 458 Location: Nashville, TN
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject: Re: How much to tip? |
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The quality of their work is directly tied to their judgment in booking an act, isn't it? I don't care how nice the venue is and the staff are, if they book somebody who makes my ears cry, then personally, no I'm not laying out a big tip to show what a great time I had. Book a great show that I enjoy, I'll tip the venue and the performer pretty equally.
Quite honestly, the demeanor of the staff, etc. has little bearing on how I tip a venue unless they make themselves outright surly. But if the venue books crap, they shouldn't expect to get tips because they were nice and the place was easy on the eyes. I tip the venue to support their efforts to bring quality music to the service that people enjoy. In the same way I won't tip an act I don't enjoy, I in turn won't tip that venue in the same show. If come back to that venue and they have booked an act I'm loving, I'll be tipping out accordingly. Seems simple enough to me.
[quote="ticious"] | vonjohin wrote: | | elvisduffy wrote: | | If they book somebody I find hard to listen to, I'm not tipping them much if anything at that particular show. If I love the act, I'll tend to be equally generous to the venue. |
Do you consider the quality of the work of the venue staff or only the quality of the act they're booking? Just curious. I mean if the staff are surly, the place is ugly and laggy are you still generous? Flip side, if the staff are friendly and the environment is comfortable and fun, does that have any impact on how much you tip the venue? This goes to my whole thing about tip splitting . . . . I always figured the audience might want to tip the artist based on their quality AND then venue based on its quality. If I'm mistaken about that, I'll have to rethink my whole position on tip splitting.
Edited to add, and maybe on auto greeters also . . . |
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EvaMoon

Joined: 30 Nov 2007 Posts: 481
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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There is no tip that I would consider offensive. You really don't have any idea what someone's personal situation is. A $10L tip could be a much bigger percentage of someone's hard earned stash than a $500L tip from someone else.
Does someone have change for a Linden? _________________ EvaMoon Ember in SL
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