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A Piece of Advice for any "new" musician in SL
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Silas Scarborough



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: One more thing.. Reply with quote

Jasmine Usher wrote:
I had a little bird inform me that on Monday the same place had me scheduled at 1pm. This never was discussed by the venue to me  and I am hoping it was an oversight on their part.  When I make an date to on anything I follow through, providing no RL issues.  I plan to IM them and ask them what the deal is.
Jas


I'd be telling them you can't work for someone who doesn't honor a deal.  You're probably right in not revealing publicly who did you like this but there's always the possibility they'll try it again with someone else.

Here's a bit more devil's advocate stuff, tho:  it's possible that the venue owners are so fresh off the boat that they really didn't know they were doing you wrong.  I know it puts you in an awkward position to educate them but I guess there's some chance that's what was at the bottom of it.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:15 pm    Post subject: Re: One more thing.. Reply with quote

Silas Scarborough wrote:
it's possible that the venue owners are so fresh off the boat that they really didn't know they were doing you wrong.  I know it puts you in an awkward position to educate them but I guess there's some chance that's what was at the bottom of it.


Personally, I'd put money on this being the case.  As for the posting, it may have been an effort to draw traffic to their shop/sim using your name (which would be dishonest and a scam and there was a venue a while back doing just this . . . and when the crowd showed but no musician, they said the musician was a no show, but please feel free to hang out . . . after about the 3rd or 4th time, folks caught on).  Or it could have been an honest posting mistake.  The event listing posting screen can be a REAL pain in the ass, even if it's not rocket science.
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Tommy CUlt



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Posting may not be rocket science ( ya know i have a RL aunt who really was a rocket scientist lol....that joke got used alot in our family LOL) - BUT...recently I posted an event for me at what I thought was 8am....of course..I stuffed up and posted at 8pm....well...I did get a few ims saying..where are you? (which meant somebody showed up LOL) - and the other thing is when you dont think it posted...and hit the 'enter' button and then hit it again...and then find you just posted 3 times ...OOPS!

AND...Tic is right..i showed up at a couple bogus shows for people - and wondered what was going on. Jasmine - look at it this way....you were so popular at getting people to the sim the first time, they just wanted to use your name and get some more the second time! Even if they are unscrupulous - it is quite a compliment   Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

(hope no one minds, I moved this thread to the 'need some advice' section.  this thread is all great info)
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Jasmine Usher



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay I imed  the hostess and she said it was a mistake.  I have not gotten back inworld to follow up with her.Also I notice that there are other people that I know for a fact! are really new to the Sl music scene going to be playing there. I am debating saying something to her about the tip issue and letting the new musicians know that they could posssibly run into the same thing.

I think its logical to bring it to the table with this hostess/"management" so that we can fix this problem. Perhaps its unfixable with this group. I am unsure the only thing I am certain of is that having another ram rodded like this is not acceptable.
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Jasmine Usher



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vonjohin wrote:
Well, all I can say is somebody would have to be a real drip to put a musician through that grind. Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that is totally the right thing to do.  Bring it up.  Let her know.
She doesn't have the performers viewpoint, so she may have no idea.

Me.. im usually freeflowing with advice, and perhaps moreso than asked for...  but this is SL, I give the advice anyway.... In RL perhaps it may be stickin my nose in and telling someone else how to do their job... but in SL, I genuinely think most people WANT advice no matter what it is.     ....the very cool thing about SL is whatever someone's goals are in SL, they're looking to improve.

So, yeah, tell em that it's not cool for any changes after the agreements, and tell em they need to be clear....    .... so either they had no idea, and now can solidify a payplan so you may even want to play there again and work with them....   ....or, they'll be jerks, and you'll move on and you know they'll fail...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jasmine Usher wrote:
vonjohin wrote:
Well, all I can say is somebody would have to be a real drip to put a musician through that grind. Laughing


Har har har your punny!


Thanks, I'll be here all week, folks. Take care of your bartenders and waitresses, they are working hard for ya tonight!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Von, I am very dissapointed in you  Razz  (smiley used to ensure my non serious  intent is clear lol) . You failed to mention the "assistant" waitpersons and bartender persons - they are also working hard too lol.

I was at a gig recently with so many tip jars on the stage, I seriously could not work out who was actually performing! I guess the next thing will be official spammer. 'Please tip the venue spammer - they are spamming hard for you - give them some linden love' - those spam jestures dont come cheap ya know '.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:02 am    Post subject: Re: One more thing.. Reply with quote

Jasmine Usher wrote:
I had a little bird inform me that on Monday the same place had me scheduled at 1pm. This never was discussed by the venue to me  and I am hoping it was an oversight on their part.  When I make an date to on anything I follow through, providing no RL issues.  I plan to IM them and ask them what the deal is. Jas


/me groans

And I hopped over to find myself listening to some truly dreadful radio
Shame, coz I was looking forward to some Jas!!

Given that I know the person who posted the event, I´ve been to the  venue in the past and I know that quite a few folks have played there (some of them semi-regular posters in this forum... (wake up guys Embarassed ), I´m kinda very surprised at all of this and really really hope it was all a genuine mistake.

/me goes off to search for Jas in the events listings
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