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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still need to get back over to the forum for the latest, but I believe at least part of this is getting resolved.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silas Scarborough wrote:
Does it say specifically that the Web site is required to take the artist's music off the site when requested.  


This is a RIAA "law" for lack of a better word.    Searching for the link now....    but yeah, there's a rule/law in place regarding this issue (for the USA).    As soon as I find the link on the RIAA site, I'll link it... I cringe being on the riaa site though.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silas Scarborough wrote:
DD, dunno if it matters taking stuff of sixty-one anyway.  The object of putting jams up there was to give them away and they're still giving them away so the only gainer is spanking sixty-one for the changes they made recently.  The same applies to SLusic and a bunch of other sites.  Once they've got your stuff, it's pretty much gone but what does it matter, really?


Well, I did hear about Mel's issue with em, and some other SL musicians having an issue about the issue....
....but, I'm not talking the61 site specifically.   I'm really just interested in finding out what we musicians can do if a music website decides to stop listening.

Like,....  my situation was in regards to cdbaby.com     I signed up with them... agreed to all their terms... started their program, and got to the point where i was supposed to send them a CD and money... so I bailed out....     then later, I found out cdbaby was blocking my tunes on other sites because CDbaby took some sort of digital ownership of it.
I sent a polite but firm email explaining exactly what songs they need to remove from their site, and that everything about me and my music needs to be erased.   7 days later I sent them a blunt email, with the first email included....   My 2nd email talked about random threatening stuff like class action and BBB... all empty threats... they responded two days later saying everything has been removed.    

now, in opposition of this...   thedjlist.com has had incorrect dj info for me published for over a year now, and ive sent them a message on occasion....   nothing has changed there.

so,  just doin some internet snooping on the subject.  anything interesting worth reading, I'll post the link
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm...quite a different thing from a spite move on sixty one.  It's surprising that CD Baby was a problem, even tho it's resolved now, as they've got a very good reputation to uphold.  I don't see anyone else responding to this but I'm sure whatever you discover will be of interest to people in the future if not now.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silas Scarborough wrote:
Hmmm...quite a different thing from a spite move on sixty one.  It's surprising that CD Baby was a problem, even tho it's resolved now, as they've got a very good reputation to uphold.  I don't see anyone else responding to this but I'm sure whatever you discover will be of interest to people in the future if not now.


Nah, CDBaby totally was no problem,  just saying it took 9 days before they removed my stuff.

As far as thesixtyone.....  like.... I'd hate to see the entire site fall apart cause some teenagers had a great idea but let it fall in the toilet.
Simply put,   if anyone were to press thesixtyone legally, they'd just take down the site since they are in violation of a zillion things by having remixes and covers and such... and having the buy link link to the wrong songs, etc....    thesixtyone is in sooo many violations, so, I fear if they get pressed, they'll just wipe the entire thing, and sell that bumping technology to some other website.
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Zak Claxton



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't participated on thesixtyone primarily for these and related reasons. I'm not saying that you folks shouldn't, though! For most people, sites like these are a good thing, and I'd encourage you to use them.

But some of the policies just don't jibe with my plans for my recorded music. Everyone's situation is different, though, and people have different goals with their music.

Regarding your main point, DD: any site that doesn't claim ownership of your music should remove it instantly upon request ("instantly" being a relative term that basically means it's within the course of a few business days).
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zak Claxton wrote:
I haven't participated on thesixtyone primarily for these and related reasons. I'm not saying that you folks shouldn't, though! For most people, sites like these are a good thing, and I'd encourage you to use them.

But some of the policies just don't jibe with my plans for my recorded music. Everyone's situation is different, though, and people have different goals with their music.

Regarding your main point, DD: any site that doesn't claim ownership of your music should remove it instantly upon request ("instantly" being a relative term that basically means it's within the course of a few business days).


Yeah, for me... thesixtyone has been the best website for my music since mp3.com.    SEEING the listeners is most important to me.  thesixtyone is a perfect site for MAKING people listen to your tunes for at least a minute.  That's why I love it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, I think it's great. I know lots of folks outside SL who are involved too.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zak Claxton wrote:
Yup, I think it's great. I know lots of folks outside SL who are involved too.

how bout....you post just one Neil young cover, and you sign up as Clax Zaxton?

bumps dude....  ya gotta start to get the addiction for bumps in your life like all of us have
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha ha! No, that's okay. I get enough bumps as it is. Bumps... and lumps.
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