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ticious
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| Silas Scarborough wrote: | | . . . Perhaps I missed it but does the cooperation extend to a single place to submit songs to play. The biggest single reason I don't send songs to the radio is that I don't want to send things three different places, or more! |
That's really not realistic or even desirable if you think about the implications beyond the convenience. Cooperation is great, so is healthy competition. In the real world, there's not one network and what a dull world it would be if there were.
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Silas Scarborough
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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I see the health of it. Three different stations and three different places to send songs if you want them heard. The healthiest thing for me to do is not waste my time so I don't send songs anywhere. As mentioned previously, given the volume of songs submitted, the chance of a single airplay is low so what's the point. There's strength in collaboration and I'm glad Reslez recognizes it.
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Reslez
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| ticious wrote: | | Silas Scarborough wrote: | | . . . Perhaps I missed it but does the cooperation extend to a single place to submit songs to play. The biggest single reason I don't send songs to the radio is that I don't want to send things three different places, or more! |
That's really not realistic or even desirable if you think about the implications beyond the convenience. Cooperation is great, so is healthy competition. In the real world, there's not one network and what a dull world it would be if there were. |
The First Call Musicians Co-op stands neutral. First and foremost, we serve the independent artist. This service is in the artists' best interest. That there are those out there that take sport in competition is fine...IF it's healthy. We have seen far too much malice between satellite groups and we attempt to curb this socio-political dysfunction at every turn. That you take issue with this, simply strengthens the case.
Yes Silas, this service is in the artists best interest, hence happily provided upon the artist's request.
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ticious
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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There is no malice in healthy competition and the word compteition should not bring the word malice to mind. That attitude implies that to raise yourself up, you need to put the other down. Not so. The best way to raise yourself is to work harder to do things better. (note, that's a generic *you* and *your* and not directed at anyone)
Healthy competition is not back biting and underhanded double dealing. It raises the bar, drives advancement and improvement where everyone benefits. Particularly the listener, who gets better music in a more and more interesting format.
Isn't radio supposed to be about the listener first. Seems like without that focus, airplay doesn't matter. There's no one listening anyway.
I am, and will continue to be, a loyal listener of SL Live Radio (formerly Radio Cher), but I find the single sidedness of this conversation worrisome.
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EvaMoon
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Silas, you're free to decide how you want to spend your time of course. But sending files to three places that will almost SURELY put every track into rotation seems like a pretty good bet compared to the other world where you send your CD and press packets to hundreds of radio stations hoping that a few of them will pick up a tune. Promoting music is hard work.
I would be reluctant to put my music in a place where I didn't necessarily know to whom it was going to be distributed gratis.
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Silas Scarborough
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| Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not putting anything down. If I do something and nothing comes of it, I'm wasting my time. This isn't just about radio stations but add them all up:
at least three radio stations
ReverbNation, iLike, MySpace, Sixty One
TuneCore
Eight uploads and that isn't even all of them.
Now repeat for the second song on your CD.
No way.
I'm not suggesting anyone do anything. Hopefully the current chaos will evolve into something practical.
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Reslez
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:32 am Post subject: |
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| EvaMoon wrote: | | I would be reluctant to put my music in a place where I didn't necessarily know to whom it was going to be distributed gratis. |
"Yes Silas, this service is in the artists best interest, hence happily provided upon the artist's request" |
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Silas Scarborough
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| Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:31 am Post subject: |
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| Reslez wrote: | | EvaMoon wrote: | | I would be reluctant to put my music in a place where I didn't necessarily know to whom it was going to be distributed gratis. |
"Yes Silas, this service is in the artists best interest, hence happily provided upon the artist's request" |
Thanks for understanding what I'm talking about. Eva's concern about her music getting sprayed all over the Western hemisphere is valid but part of the job of a 'clearinghouse' is to provide the security to performers that their art will not be mis-handled. Perhaps a boilerplate agreement would be good: I, the coolest musician in SL, agree that my music can be distributed to x,y,z. Permission is granted for distribution to those but no others. Possibly workable.
I daresay there's money to be made and it's not really important if people who don't distribute music don't understand it. The ones who have to ship MP3 files out to everywhere on the planet are well aware of it. I'd be hard-pressed to come up with a figure for how much I'd pay to be able to send my MP3 to the One Honest Clearinghouse to get it sent to All The Cool Places, tho.
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