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Zak Claxton



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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fyrm Fouroux wrote:
How do you count 7/8?


Old musician's secret: never count more than 4.

A 7/8 either goes 1,2,3,4; 1,2,3

or

1,2,3; 1,2,3,4.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zak Claxton wrote:
Fyrm Fouroux wrote:
How do you count 7/8?


Old musician's secret: never count more than 4.

A 7/8 either goes 1,2,3,4; 1,2,3

or

1,2,3; 1,2,3,4.

I agree with you 100%, Zak.  And it thus leaves me somewhat underwhelmed about that interview
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG cool Video !!!!!!!!!!!

thats what i love about Frank, he pushed his musicians really to the limits.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sorry I don't have the link just now but there's an interview with Vai on YouTube and he talks about his first or very early session with Zappa.  It's very cool and the punchline will have you falling out of your chair laughing.  Zappa was one amazing man and anyone who missed the "Shut Up and Play Yer Guitar" tour missed one of the hardest-rockin' shows that ever came down the road.  He absolutely blew the walls down!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6cplMM3d_Q

Shocked


The video is plugging the Berklee School of Music but Zappa did not go there and, in fact, never really attended anywhere.  He went to CCM (Cincinnati Conservatory of Music) but dropped out after a relatively short time as he had more important things to do, like being Zappa.   (It might be Cincinnati's College Conservatory of Music.  Who knows...everyone just called it CCM)
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went to Berklee for a year. Smile

1985.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zak Claxton wrote:
I went to Berklee for a year. Smile

1985.


There's an interesting blurb on the Berklee web site from a professor of bass.  He said he gets all kinds of bass players coming to him and when he first meets them they can do all the flashy stuff that he called 'music store jams' but what he aims to do is teach them how to do what bass players really do.

Education, in any field, is a mixed blessing as, unless you're an extremely strong-willed individual, it is almost impossible to learn something from someone else without also adopting, to some extent, that person's style.  I don't mean to go too far with this.

Zak, if you don't mind my asking, why did you bail after a year?  (None of yer damn bizness is a perfectly fine response Smile
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Zak, if you don't mind my asking, why did you bail after a year?  (None of yer damn bizness is a perfectly fine response Smile


Ran outta money.

I ended up getting my bachelor's in music from a Cal State school that gave me great instruction and that (more importantly) I could afford. I got some help from the folks but also worked my way through.

But Berklee was a great environment, and I had a guitar in my hands 6-7 hours per day.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks.  I don't know why Zappa dropped out of CCM but I bet if there's an answer on the Web somewhere then it'll be so cryptic that no-one will be able to decipher it.
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silas Scarborough wrote:
Thanks.  I don't know why Zappa dropped out of CCM but I bet if there's an answer on the Web somewhere then it'll be so cryptic that no-one will be able to decipher it.


*LOLz* you already gave the answer to that question yourself: "he had more important things to do, like being Zappa" - in all its cozmic simplicity, that is most likely spot on!
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hexx wrote:
Silas Scarborough wrote:
Thanks.  I don't know why Zappa dropped out of CCM but I bet if there's an answer on the Web somewhere then it'll be so cryptic that no-one will be able to decipher it.


*LOLz* you already gave the answer to that question yourself: "he had more important things to do, like being Zappa" - in all its cozmic simplicity, that is most likely spot on!


I'm sure you already know this but I'm not being cynical when I question the value of education, particularly in any artistic endeavour, and also, to some extent, concentrating overmuch on cover tunes as avoiding becoming one's teacher is quite a significant obstacle.  I really am interested in Zappa's reasoning in dropping out of CCM but I suspect the answer is a lot less artsy-fartsy than I imagine.  Like Zak, he prob'ly ran out of money Smile
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