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Help with setup for USB streaming
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BabbleGrabble



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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was inches away from getting a TonePort myself - finally talked myself into the Mbox2 (don't attack me, Silas - lol).
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BabbleGrabble wrote:
I was inches away from getting a TonePort myself - finally talked myself into the Mbox2 (don't attack me, Silas - lol).


I don't want to attack you; I want to blow up Digidesign!  lol

Interesting stuff here.  I won't bore you with a lot of Mac stuff but, man, if it were this hard on a Mac, I dunno if I'd even be doing it.

I hear the monitoring off the mixer so, unless, there's some effects device hanging off it then the signal goes through completely dry, correct?  (Barring any stompbox prior to the mixer)  Advantage to the USB mixer seems to me that there's no propagation delay; you're not sending the signal to the computer to jack it around before sending it back out the interface to hear it.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I was just teasing ... and I realize Macs are cool - it just happens to be my livelihood, suffering in the PC world. If the monitoring is anything like the Mbox, you hear the wet mix through the headphones plugged into the hardware ... but Pro Tools and the Mbox work together in this way.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BabbleGrabble wrote:
No, I was just teasing ... and I realize Macs are cool - it just happens to be my livelihood, suffering in the PC world. If the monitoring is anything like the Mbox, you hear the wet mix through the headphones plugged into the hardware ... but Pro Tools and the Mbox work together in this way.


I beg to differ:  Pro Tools LE don't do nuffin' on Leopard 10.5.2 except make stinky noises which I can easily do without any assistance at all.

The dry/wet stuff is what I'm trying to nail for certain as I'd be surprised if the mixer were smart enough to proceed the outbound audio over USB and route it to attached monitors.  Maybe I'm just being thick but it seems like a one-way audio stream as opposed to the way the Mbox2 or similar would behave.  Can anyone confirm?
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:08 pm    Post subject: :( Reply with quote

I tried what you said Norris and changed my input to the toneport, fired up Simplecast, but it would not treat that as the soundcard input. Might just be a pecularity of simplecast. I'll have to try it with winamp.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am just now discovering that Spacial Audio does not support ASIO in their products, which is why these USB devices simply will not be detected in the streaming software. I have submitted a trouble ticket for verification.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:54 pm    Post subject: Oh no! Reply with quote

Doesn't sound good. I really have liked using Simplecast. By the way, they advertise that you can save the stream to your harddisk but I don't see where you turn this on in Simplecast. Any idea Babble?
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure if it's the same (most likely it is), but in SAM, you configure the encoder and click on the Stream Archive tab - check "Save stream to file," browse to the directory where you want to store it, and put in a filename; plus, there are some overwrite options to set, depending on preference.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 9:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Oh no! Reply with quote

Song Clanger wrote:
Doesn't sound good. I really have liked using Simplecast. By the way, they advertise that you can save the stream to your harddisk but I don't see where you turn this on in Simplecast. Any idea Babble?

Hi Song,
Open up Simplecast
Then, in the Encoders screen, select the line for the particular venue stream you are using, and double click it to bring up the dialogue box
Click on the 'Stream Archive' tab
Check the 'Save stream to file' box so it has a tick in it
at the end of the Filename (oblong) box there is a file icon.
Click on that and you can then browse into your hard disk and select the folder you want the file to be placed in
You might want to name that file with the venue and date of recording - whatever.
Click the 'Open' button
then Click OK to close the dialogue box.
That should do it.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 3:42 pm    Post subject: Excellent! Reply with quote

Thanks Fyrm! Not sure why I have never seen that before!
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