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Zak Claxton
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 Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:21 am Post subject: 10.5.2 plus graphic update |
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I am loving it so far! Don't want to jinx myself, but my Mac is running SL better than ever before. Frame rates, stability seems waaaaaaaay better.
I cautiously say, w00t!
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Silas Scarborough
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:28 am Post subject: |
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I haven't done a clean install since I first upgraded to OS X...but the time comes. Some sort of creepie crawlie from all those years has poisoned Leopard and the symptom is that a chatter will suddenly start in the audio and the only way to make it stop is to re-start. Sometimes it will take several re-starts to correct it. (The chatter doesn't seem to be dependent on any particular app. It starts without any identifiable trigger.)
I loaded a virgin copy of Leopard on another disk and tried to populate it with the apps, etc from the failing system but that froze the box. Yes, very sick...so no option but to rebuild from scratch.
So, I've been working each night for quite a while to build a new system, proggie by proggie, re-installing everything. It's a massively decked-out box with multiple pro apps from Apple so this is one slow laborious haul.
I don't think there's any way around it as the utility to copy the old system forward doesn't give you the ability to selectively copy anything so inevitably junk will come forward as well. I've only heard of rare instances of this problem with others who have upgraded to Leopard and it's highly liked that those affected got that way by taking the same course as I did.
So, do consider a clean install on this one.
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ka-klick
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| Silas Scarborough wrote: | I haven't done a clean install since I first upgraded to OS X...but the time comes. Some sort of creepie crawlie from all those years has poisoned Leopard and the symptom is that a chatter will suddenly start in the audio and the only way to make it stop is to re-start. Sometimes it will take several re-starts to correct it. (The chatter doesn't seem to be dependent on any particular app. It starts without any identifiable trigger.)
I loaded a virgin copy of Leopard on another disk and tried to populate it with the apps, etc from the failing system but that froze the box. Yes, very sick...so no option but to rebuild from scratch.
So, I've been working each night for quite a while to build a new system, proggie by proggie, re-installing everything. It's a massively decked-out box with multiple pro apps from Apple so this is one slow laborious haul.
I don't think there's any way around it as the utility to copy the old system forward doesn't give you the ability to selectively copy anything so inevitably junk will come forward as well. I've only heard of rare instances of this problem with others who have upgraded to Leopard and it's highly liked that those affected got that way by taking the same course as I did.
So, do consider a clean install on this one. |
What I typically do (and has worked out well) is make a duplicate of the drive I'm upgrading via Disk Utility onto a firewire drive. Then (after testing that the firewire copy is fully bootable and has all my stuff on it) I use the wipe and install method - which reformats the entire drive (the main system drive) then I use the migration assistant and pretend that the firewire drive is my old mac. It moves over all the apps, files folders and even the drivers that are known safe. It's worked well for me several times. (takes longer, but worth it). Hoping to do this thurdsay when my new firewire drive arrives. I already used this on my work laptop to move to Leopard and it worked out well. I've been waiting for Alesis and Rogue Amoeba to release Leopard certified software, and now those are in place and I have some time. Bought my home copy of Leopard yesterday. |
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Zak Claxton
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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I'm telling you guys, whatever version of Leopard you end up with, immediately do the 10.5.2 update AND the graphics update. You will freak the f___ out.
Frame rates are incredibly faster, performance is way better. It's the best combination of Mac OS and SL release I've seen since I started a year and a half ago.
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vonjohin
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:27 am Post subject: Re: 10.5.2 plus graphic update |
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Amen to that. My MacBook Pro is actually "quasi-stable" here now, even with wi-fi.
| Zak Claxton wrote: | I am loving it so far! Don't want to jinx myself, but my Mac is running SL better than ever before. Frame rates, stability seems waaaaaaaay better.
I cautiously say, w00t! |
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Silas Scarborough
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:49 am Post subject: |
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| ka-klick wrote: |
I use the migration assistant and pretend that the firewire drive is my old mac. It moves over all the apps, files folders and even the drivers that are known safe. It's worked well for me several times. (takes longer, but worth it) |
This is the process that froze the Mac. First time I've ever had a problem but there was something dirty in the old system and I still have no idea what it was. So I installed it again just to make sure I had a pristine base and did it the hard way. I just did a gig with the new system and have not as yet suffered the audio chatter failure when typically it would have happened by now. It might finally be fixed and this has been going on for a *long* time.
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Silas Scarborough
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:14 am Post subject: |
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Other World Computer: Western Digital 500 GB internal drives for $109. I just got another one as the previous system drive is only 250 GB and all the other drives in the box are WD 500 GB drives. When the new one arrives, I'll replace the old system drive but I won't erase it before I unload it. That'll take me to up two terabytes in internal drives.
That's all very well but how does one back it up. Time Machine is an interesting solution but that only works if you've got adequate backup storage. What I need now is a couple of terabytes of external drives but I didn't have a good experience installing a SATA card and I want the highest speed for backups so I don't want Firewire. Sure, FW3200 is coming but when...
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Silas Scarborough
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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Western Digital has a 2 TB, triple-interface external drive and I found one for $509. Of course the rich boys can get a pair of 1 TB arrays for $2000 a copy but I'll have to leave that report to someone else. Many have said the WD device makes too much noise and I'll drop a note out here after I've had a little chair time with it.
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EvaMoon
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Hey guys, if any of you are online let me know.
I got Leopard and installed it on my laptop with no problem, but on my intel imac (same processor as the laptop) it won't let me install without erasing the disc.
In theory, I don't have a problem with doing a clean install. In practice, or in prospect, it's giving me the creeping heebie jeebies. I really can't afford to have my computer out of commission.
I'm in the process of making a full backup right now. Kaklick, you said something about using disk utility to make a duplicate. Did you mean a disc image? That option wouldn't work for me. I kept getting a "resource busy" error. When I looked that up on the apple forums, they suggesting making a back up using the restore function (ie. 'restore' my HD to my blank external drive, which seems a little backwards, but it's working)
One thing that worries me is will that method work for convincing my newly OSsified iMac that the external drive is another computer to migrate from? I CAN install all my software one app at a time, but it would be a huge, time-eating hassle.
Help? Reassurances?
Thanks!
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Silas Scarborough
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| Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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Eva,
One excellent resource for creating a bootable duplicate of your system is Super Duper. It's shareware but it's inexpensive and it's reliable. Whatever you use to make the backup, boot from the copy to make sure it works before proceeding.
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