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Silas Scarborough



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EvaMoon wrote:
One thing that worries me is will that method work for convincing my newly OSsified iMac that the external drive is another computer to migrate from?


The Migration Assistant is used to identify the system from which you wish to carry forward apps, user data, etc. to your new system.  It's in Applications-->Utilities-->Migration Assistant

EvaMoon wrote:
I CAN install all my software one app at a time, but it would be a huge, time-eating hassle.


Are you sure you can...  Do you have every download file that you've used for installing new apps.  Nicecast is a download.  Do you still have it.  Do you have the registration numbers for everything you're running.  Definitely find this stuff before you make the move.
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EvaMoon



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, yes I do have registered copies and registration numbers for all my software. So, I'm sure I can install everything I need. I'm tempted to do this instead of migrating anyway - including checking for the latest upgrades of my most important programs. I think the result will be cleaner and faster.

The install is underway. (gulp) It failed once. I ran disk utility and the disk is clean. I erased it several times and verified it several times. No issues showing up. Fingers and toes crossed. My backup looks fine. I disconnected that drive from the computer before proceeding with the install.

I've got a show at 11 tonight. If I'm not there, you'll know why...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carbon Copy Cloner is my bootable, cloning, disk copy program of choice.

EvaMoon wrote:
Hey guys, if any of you are online let me know.

I got Leopard and installed it on my laptop with no problem, but on my intel imac (same processor as the laptop) it won't let me install without erasing the disc.

In theory, I don't have a problem with doing a clean install. In practice, or in prospect, it's giving me the creeping heebie jeebies. I really can't afford to have my computer out of commission.

I'm in the process of making a full backup right now. Kaklick, you said something about using disk utility to make a duplicate. Did you mean a disc image? That option wouldn't work for me. I kept getting a "resource busy" error. When I looked that up on the apple forums, they suggesting making a back up using the restore function (ie. 'restore' my HD to my blank external drive, which seems a little backwards, but it's working)

One thing that worries me is will that method work for convincing my newly OSsified iMac that the external drive is another computer to migrate from? I CAN install all my software one app at a time, but it would be a huge, time-eating hassle.

Help? Reassurances?

Thanks!
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Silas Scarborough



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EvaMoon wrote:
I've got a show at 11 tonight. If I'm not there, you'll know why...


Hmm...no update.  Are you ok?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She lives.

I ended up doing a migration after all. It was mostly ok, though there are lot's of little adjustments and weirdnesses. The show last night started a bit flustered but smoothed out quickly. I still have much software to check out be frustrated by.

One thing I noticed was that the migration doesn't seem to have moved over my photos, music or movies from the remote drive, but my HD is just as full as if it had. Either the copies are hiding somewhere unexpected or the new OS is about ten times hoggier than the old one.

Thanks for your help and suggestions!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turns out it's a good thing I have all my serial numbers. This migration did not go as smoothly as previous migrations. Some software is loading fine, some wants reinstalling or is acting new. All of it has lost my preferences, though I presume I can find and drag those from the back ups.

I SL I didn't realize I had to turn off away mode again and fell asleep on stage.

This new OS better be good! I just ordered a 1T drive for Time Machine.
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Silas Scarborough



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to hear you survived!  For iTunes, iPhoto, etc you can usually drag the folder with your tunes into an open iTunes window and it'll suddenly wake up to them.  Be careful as to where you have iTunes pointed for storing your tunes and how you have it set for moving them or you may find your entire song library getting moved from point A to point B.  Just changing the song folder name in iTunes preferences won't do much of anything.  There's also a freebie program called iPhoto Library Manager that is highly excellent for managing multiple iPhoto libraries or simply pointing iPhoto at a new one.

Leopard really doesn't blow me away all that much and I'm most disappointed at how difficult it has been to resolve problems I've had with audio.  It's becoming more and more clear that the root of it is in the Presonus driver but I still don't have conclusive proof and it would be massively difficult to get it.

Time Machine is one of the standout features of an otherwise over-hyped upgrade as it will almost certainly change how you manage your data.  You may wish to choose a backup interval that is longer than an hour and you can do that with Time Machine Editor (freebie).  It's not a risky haxie as it just edits the plist file that Time Machine uses to determine backup frequency.  I'm not using it and I just pass this along in case it's of interest to you.  I don't have any particular reason to change the frequency as I haven't noticed the slightest impact from running Time Machine and my system is now backed up better than it ever has been.  Note:  if you use Aperture, you may have a conflict if you're not running 10.5.2.
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