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Tommy CUlt
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ok....here is something different in AUST....re: fish and chips. Things MAY have changed since my last F & C purchase in the UK...but....here the fish is not cooked till you order it (same with chips). They wrap the fish and chips together in plain sheets of paper - usually 3 or 4 sheets. It ends up lookiing like a lil paper parcel...maybe we need photographic evidence lol...i will do my best this friday 
.....and...just to confirm...chips are like...fries....not pringles lol. Then of course, we have wedges, which are just thick and unpeeled chips - not to be confused with wedgies, which is a completely different topic.
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Silas Scarborough
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Tommy,
Man, you bring back some memories. I guess someone decided it was bad to wrap them in newspaper but that's how I used to get 'em and for the extra special days there'd be some scallops in there too. Tear off the end of that newspaper wrapping and tuck in. American fish and chips don't even come close.
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Fyrm Fouroux
Joined: 15 Dec 2007
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Location: North East of England
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| Tommy CUlt wrote: | | Things MAY have changed since my last F & C purchase in the UK...but....here the fish is not cooked till you order it (same with chips). They wrap the fish and chips together in plain sheets of paper - usually 3 or 4 sheets. It ends up lookiing like a lil paper parcel... |
Yes, Tommy, that is how fish and chips are cooked in the uk (normally as you stand waiting in the queue). They used to be wrapped in yesterday's newspaper but I think that has been stopped now (probably some health and safety regulation).
I explicitly mention the newspaper in Verse 3 of my song "Fish and chips", although I use that as a peg to hang a criticism of UK tabloid newspapers and their use of topless female models on Page 3. The last verse deals with the disproportionate number of widows that were found to live in some of the Scottish fishing villages about 25 years ago. I wrote the song after listening to an incredibly interesting BBC radio documentary concerning the state of the small boat fishing industry in Scotland - this would be back in 1982. They argued that the boats were being equipped with expensive radar and navigation systems which should have made fishing safer. But this made the boats so expensive to buy that the skippers were putting to sea (in order to pay the interest on the loans and mortgages) at times when, in the old days, the captains might have used a simple rule of thumb and stayed home in port. Hence the high proportion of widows in the fishing villages. I deal with the Scottish theme in Verse 4 of my song. Of course, the Scottish contemporary folk singer Ewan McColl made a fantastic radio documentary for the BBC some years before that, called "The singing and the fishing".
At the time I wrote my song, I had been reading Marx's Capital, alongside Milton Friedman's book on free market economics. I had previously had some training in banking and industrial accounting and I suddenly realised that Marx was a really good cost acountant. The only difference between him and the capitalist economic analysis seemed to be the interpretation of profit (whereas capitalists feel that profit is wonderful, Marx saw it is being exploitative and called it suprlus value).
I had grown up in an area of the UK which had some of the best farming land in the country, and so I developed a kind of Marxist analysis for the economics of fish and chips and this is what underpins Verse 1 and Verse 2, in the song. I have sometimes been taken to task over this by farmers (or people who know farmers), since for many it is a very hard living and for some it is very difficult to break even financially. [I'm sure Norris would be able to comment on this]. But, as I say, I had grown up in an area that had very good farming so that is where my (possibly prejudiced) views came from.
I wrote the song as an exercise in ideological deconstruction: you focus on a taken-forgranted piece of everyday life and pull it apart analytically. It is a reflective process. A young woman who used to come to my gigs in rl once took me aside and said that she had never thought about fish and chips in that way before and that in future she would think differently as she waited in line for them to be fried in the fat. I took that as a really nice compliment.
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vonjohin
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Location: Nashville, TN
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Thanks for the background, Fyrm. Its an interesting story. But all I asked for was a .....
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| Fyrm Fouroux wrote: | | Tommy CUlt wrote: | | Things MAY have changed since my last F & C purchase in the UK...but....here the fish is not cooked till you order it (same with chips). They wrap the fish and chips together in plain sheets of paper - usually 3 or 4 sheets. It ends up lookiing like a lil paper parcel... |
Yes, Tommy, that is how fish and chips are cooked in the uk (normally as you stand waiting in the queue). They used to be wrapped in yesterday's newspaper but I think that has been stopped now (probably some health and safety regulation).
I explicitly mention the newspaper in Verse 3 of my song "Fish and chips", although I use that as a peg to hang a criticism of UK tabloid newspapers and their use of topless female models on Page 3. The last verse deals with the disproportionate number of widows that were found to live in some of the Scottish fishing villages about 25 years ago. I wrote the song after listening to an incredibly interesting BBC radio documentary concerning the state of the small boat fishing industry in Scotland - this would be back in 1982. They argued that the boats were being equipped with expensive radar and navigation systems which should have made fishing safer. But this made the boats so expensive to buy that the skippers were putting to sea (in order to pay the interest on the loans and mortgages) at times when, in the old days, the captains might have used a simple rule of thumb and stayed home in port. Hence the high proportion of widows in the fishing villages. I deal with the Scottish theme in Verse 4 of my song. Of course, the Scottish contemporary folk singer Ewan McColl made a fantastic radio documentary for the BBC some years before that, called "The singing and the fishing".
At the time I wrote my song, I had been reading Marx's Capital, alongside Milton Friedman's book on free market economics. I had previously had some training in banking and industrial accounting and I suddenly realised that Marx was a really good cost acountant. The only difference between him and the capitalist economic analysis seemed to be the interpretation of profit (whereas capitalists feel that profit is wonderful, Marx saw it is being exploitative and called it suprlus value).
I had grown up in an area of the UK which had some of the best farming land in the country, and so I developed a kind of Marxist analysis for the economics of fish and chips and this is what underpins Verse 1 and Verse 2, in the song. I have sometimes been taken to task over this by farmers (or people who know farmers), since for many it is a very hard living and for some it is very difficult to break even financially. [I'm sure Norris would be able to comment on this]. But, as I say, I had grown up in an area that had very good farming so that is where my (possibly prejudiced) views came from.
I wrote the song as an exercise in ideological deconstruction: you focus on a taken-forgranted piece of everyday life and pull it apart analytically. It is a reflective process. A young woman who used to come to my gigs in rl once took me aside and said that she had never thought about fish and chips in that way before and that in future she would think differently as she waited in line for them to be fried in the fat. I took that as a really nice compliment. |
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Nad
Joined: 05 Sep 2007
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Location: at my puter.
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I've almost completed my latest build, a transparent guitar strap. IM me in world if you want one. I will prolly let them go for 2.5-4k depending on if they are fixed length or adjustable. Some may have slogans (thus the adjustability).
Like, "YES I KNOW FREEBIRD AND NO I WONT PLAY IT SO SHUT THE FCUK UP ALREADY - CHEEZUS FREEKIN CRISPIES".
Or "MY OTHER STRAP IS BEING LOANED OUT TO SILAS WHO WONT RETURN IT THOUGH HE SWEARS HE AINT PLAYIN ANYMORE - CHEEZUS FREEKIN CRISPIES".
And "OF COURSE YOU CANT SEE THIS STRAP IT'S FCUKIN TRANSPARENT GET OVER IT - CHEEZUS FREEKIN CRISPIES". |
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Zak Claxton
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Location: Podul/33/243/154/
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I'll take four of them.
Or do I already have them?
Hmmm.
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