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Dmitriy Gausman



Joined: 25 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:12 am    Post subject: New DJ - Mic/SAM Help Reply with quote

Hello-

I am starting out as a DJ and what I have so far is SAM Broadcaster 4, a computer with Vista Home Premium, and a cable broadband modem with good speed. My audio card is a Creative Labs Xtreme Music.

I purchased a one week stream (I had previously tried Neo and now I am trying Udo Tuxing).

The music is just a touch laggy from SAM to the stream to SL, but not bad at all. However, when I try to speak, the delay is awful. Sometimes a good 30 seconds or more after I speak into the mic. Is this just too much to push through?

I have read that I can use a mixer but I am not sure how to take advantage of all the aspects of SAM, send it to the mixer and come back again to the computer so it can reach the stream. I would like to put some reverb on the voice, but with the lag in voice, it's a bit premature for that.

One more question. When I have been to clubs, the DJ's take requests. Now I know many might have accumulated quite an archive, especially if they DJ in rl, but for the ones that don't. how are they dowmloading the songs fast enough without it affecting the bandwidth from their ISP? I ask because sometimes when I open a directory of music, SAM skips a bit.

Thanks so much for tolerating a noob Smile

Dmitriy
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Doubledown Tandino



Joined: 07 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, not totally certain, but lets start troubleshooting.
So, I have a feeling that when you turn your mic on, it is also recycling the music too.   Check your PCs volume controls, mixer, and advanced options.   There's little checkbox options which make all the difference.  
I have a feeling that your sound card is set up in some way so it's doubling up the kbps.

.. the first step would be to try the same things not using SAM... if all the problems are the same, it's the computer (not broken, just needs adjustments somewhere).

EDIT:   come to think of it, this actually may be a SAM setting that needs to be adjusted....    SAM may be thinking you're trying to play music on one stream, and then talk on another.   I'm unfamiliar with SAM, but I do know there's a lot of dual stream, dual dj options.... you'll want to make sure SAM is all set so your music and the mic is one thing

In regards to request djs:   They ARE in fact downloading requests.... and then they wonder why their show sucks and their stream sounds god awful.    A good DJ will have a massive organized collection.  But will never have EVERYTHING.    .... personally, I think it's better to not try to download during the stream.   ... if you ARE going to download as you stream, I'd recommend streaming at 64kbps mono, make sure your SL graphics are at the lowest possible, and your P2P has a max kbps cap.
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Dmitriy Gausman



Joined: 25 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much for the reply. I think it was my extreme newness to the streaming/DJ/SL thing that threw me off. I thought it was only my voice, but then i did a crossfade and noticed that too was delayed. I timed it and the delay was about 25 seconds from anything I do in SAM until it gets output to the SL stream. I guess that kind of lag is common and it will change my approach to chatting in SL at gigs. It won't be very "in the moment".

Dmitriy
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Norris Shepherd



Joined: 06 Nov 2007
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Location: New Brunswick, Canada

PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dmitriy Gausman wrote:
I guess that kind of lag is common and it will change my approach to chatting in SL at gigs. It won't be very "in the moment".

Dmitriy


... i think the key for this is to monitor the music as it is playing on your computer...  and NOT the music as it arrives on the stream.   This way, anything that you say between songs, during crossfades, in the middle of songs, etc.. will get encoded and sent out on the stream the same as you heard it.   People on the other end of the stream will hear it as you intended.

I hope that makes sense, and i hope i understood what you were saying.
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