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Distilled1



Joined: 04 Sep 2007
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Location: Chicago

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fabs you know if you post for help at dmusic and post some of the 1/2 songs you can get tons of good crit. and help there, just post on the site shout box and in the forum.
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I get half way there as well all the time, I have books ( I mean BOOKS!) of lyrics/poetry/musings) but putting it to music is hard for me, I can come up with music easy, weather simple or complex, but getting things to fit is my devil...

I think you may been there when I have done some Original stuff improved off the top of my head, start with a basic song 3 chord structure verse and refrain same 3 chords (they are the big #1 hits anyway every time lol)

and work the melody out with your beautiful voice, with just the base 3 chords ...and if needed add some nice change with a bridge or two Wink
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Soundcircel Flanagan



Joined: 05 Sep 2007
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Location: The Netherlands

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a true dutch story Smile

we had a famous dutch singer here ( died a few years back )
lots of number 1 hits.....

he wrote his lyrics using a rhyme book...

he just started and when he got stuck, he just looked into that book for nice words that rhymed, then he could go on Smile
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Jasmine Usher



Joined: 26 Sep 2007
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Location: Boston, Mass

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 1:31 am    Post subject: Chiming in Reply with quote

Recently I attended a workshop about songwriting and how we shape songs to place. We did two exercises where we asked ourselves " How do we feel right now." The next excercise was to think of a place in our lives that made us feel connected. If that makes any sense. Just writing it all out and then from those answers weaving together a song.

Another thing that was mentioned was taking a picture that tells a story. For example a work from visual artist Andy Goldsworthy. The story is in colors, shapes and anything that caught your eye.

I know for myself these methods have been working, the library is a great resource for finding inspirations within the written word and picture books of places around the world.

Also someone mentioned the muse website. Great website and I refer back to often.

Hope this helps.
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dakota7z7



Joined: 09 Oct 2007
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Location: seattle, wash

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:26 pm    Post subject: writing Reply with quote

carry a notebook at all times. jot down meaningless randon phrases and things you see lol... try new chord progressions and scales and above all....play play play.......ply with multi-effects, sometimes just a new sound will lead to a new song with the same old chords and scales..i love that song about your son!!!!.....dak
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Nad



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is a handy tool to have bookmarked.

http://www.rhymezone.com/
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Fable Sinatra



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow thanks guys!! i hadnt checked this post in alittle while, but the recent posts bumped it for me!!

Im gonna check out all those sites thanks very much for not just dismissing me with '' practice is the key'' I did say i knew that already, but like Komoso said there are ways to be more efficient and productive rather than just struggling on my own and not really getting anywhere. We all have to start somewhere!!

Jasmine and i got together on monday and went through some techniques, which helped me a bunch too! thanks sweety ))

How come i didnt see there were new posts here til now??

Thanks guys )) I really apprechiate it Smile
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elvisduffy



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always rhyme fire with desire.  Very Happy It sounds corny but you'd be surprised how many times it shows up.

Idea

And don't forget "can't you see".
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vonjohin



Joined: 19 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my RL job, we just shipped a great new book to the printer, it will be out in about 6-8 weeks. Its called 1000 Songwriting Ideas. I love this thing. Its literally 1000 things to think about to help trigger ideas for melodies and lyrics, give you places to start, help you get past the block. Search for it on Amazon.com. Its published by Hal Leonard Corp, and its written by Lisa Aschmann. 300+ pages, under $30, and the content is priceless.

Fable Sinatra wrote:
wow thanks guys!! i hadnt checked this post in alittle while, but the recent posts bumped it for me!!

Im gonna check out all those sites thanks very much for not just dismissing me with '' practice is the key'' I did say i knew that already, but like Komoso said there are ways to be more efficient and productive rather than just struggling on my own and not really getting anywhere. We all have to start somewhere!!

Jasmine and i got together on monday and went through some techniques, which helped me a bunch too! thanks sweety ))

How come i didnt see there were new posts here til now??

Thanks guys )) I really apprechiate it Smile
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Phoenix Psaltery



Joined: 30 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My friend Dave Byers, who runs DC Music, wrote a great book on songwriting. I did the cover for it.

http://www.dcmusicstore.com/Songwriting-Fundamentals-book?sc=9

Worth the $14.99.

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