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standard artist fee structure/estimate?
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Silas Scarborough



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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty much of a pinko on this as I charge from each according to ability.  Sometimes the venue owner is just being an audience member who wants to hear me play and couldn't care less if anyone else shows up.  They just like me to come in once in a while, get all nuts, blow some stuff up, and after that they can get back to some gigs with with people who actually know some songs Smile

I don't guarantee anyone's going to show up and I do warn the venue owner they probably won't.  I know it's kind of trite to be deliberately non-commercial but that's not really what I'm doing.  In any case, I'll never draw like, say, Max Kleene.   (I have no idea what he makes; I just know he packs the crowd right in.)

Part of fee structure goes back to splitting tipjars as certainly there's an effect from whatever you pump back into the venue either through your scintillating wit, charm, and stunning good lucks and/or through lindens kicked back to the venue owner from tips.  (Read tipjar threads before going off on that tangent.  It is a long one.)
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Davin Romano



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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx Silas, I'll read up on that too... and thx Ticious for the friendly valuable advice as well.. I've spent 2 months now going to shows and hunting down the styles I'd like to get, and I built my venue for myself to dj and friends to hang out in for a while until I get things really finger out as far as my budget and what I'd like vs what I can do.

this forum is most helpful!  and I'm half regretting building a genre specific venue bc there's a ton of talent here that I'd love to have grace my little wooden stage!

Cant' wait to see the slmc isle!
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Fyrm Fouroux



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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davin Romano wrote:
this forum is most helpful!  and I'm half regretting building a genre specific venue bc there's a ton of talent here that I'd love to have grace my little wooden stage!

Hi Davin, I'm a musician and I think this thread has had a bunch of wonderful contributions from some extremely knowledgeable and interesting people. There is absolutely nothing I could possibly add to what has been said.

However, at the risk of a minor topic veer, I wondered if you could give us a hint as to how the architecture of your build hones itself to the genre of your choice. I'm not trying to be facetious, but I started thinking about padded walls and soft mattresses for the heavy metal head-bangers, or sails and crows nests for the shantymen - then I told myself to stop being silly  Confused
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol  Fyrm...  I built a place called Steamers Jazz Bar, after one of my fave RL hangouts in Orange County, California.. the decor was done completely in B&W, even the stage graced with an upright piano, drumset, and double bass... all the art work, furniture, etc..  it was really fun to build/design and I've had a ton of compliments from people already.

But I also like to DJ electro music, so I need to build another place I can do that.. lol or work at other venues Smile

I guess I dont have to limit myself to jazz, I also would like some blues artists, and even some old 50's rock could get away with the atmosphere.  i unno, am I limiting myself by doing this?  It sprouted from a B&W dream one night.. lol
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Silas Scarborough



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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keeping a tight focus on the type of material at a venue can be a good thing.  Sunset Jazz is an example in which it's almost exclusively light jazz (as opposed to bebop).  It was a clever move as it built up jazz acts in SL while at the same time establishing that venue as the place to hear it.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silas Scarborough wrote:
. . . Sunset Jazz is an example in which it's almost exclusively light jazz (as opposed to bebop).  It was a clever move as it built up jazz acts in SL while at the same time establishing that venue as the place to hear it.


Well this is quite true, many of the acts I've seen at Sunset Jazz have not been Jazz at all, so it's entirely possible to develop a rep for one specific core genre by focusing primarily on that genre without wholly limiting yourself to it.
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Tabitha_Oxide



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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drinks are always too expensive in the venues,
I suggest save some coin and get toasted in the lot first.

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Doubledown Tandino



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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My fee structure:

If I wanna play for free shows:   I play for free, and donate a chunk to the venue.

SL only shows, hangout and party: free to $3000L an hour

SL only shows promotional, sales, or corporate: $3000L to $6000L an hour

RL companies in SL:  $10,000L and up, which also comes with my promotions package.


Disclaimer:   Doubledown's rates are subject to change prior to agreement based on anything and everything including how cool you are.
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Fyrm Fouroux



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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silas Scarborough wrote:
Keeping a tight focus on the type of material at a venue can be a good thing.  Sunset Jazz is an example in which it's almost exclusively light jazz (as opposed to bebop).  It was a clever move as it built up jazz acts in SL while at the same time establishing that venue as the place to hear it.

I think a pub called 'The Bell-Ringers Arms' might appeal (geddit) to all those closet tintinnabulationists in SL Wink
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