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Cher Harrington



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What works for me is to go to View -- Statistics -- Main Agents.  You can keep this open too, beats counting the green dots :0

For listener stats I keep the shoutcast page open to the stream url and refesh.

So for an event at say The Blarney Stone, we constantly keep each other updated in this way:  30/25 where 30 is the housecount and 25 are tuned in.

Ongoing behind the scenes, we say, ohh only 30 here what can we do to increase the housecount?  Or if the listener count is way below the housecount, then "click on your music buttons!"

The stats are sent by notice for the staff so that we can refer back  and if more help is needed, anyone can assist Smile
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Krell Karu



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like a lot of the ideas in here. While this may not be the best way, this is how I have been dealing with it. Take this all with a grain of salt - I only have 4 open mics under my belt so far.

1) Log all chat (enabled in preferences) - timestamped
2) after the event, open the chat log in a text editor
3) select all the text from the time when i was onstage, copy this text to a new file
4) in Excel, open the new file - select text delimited with blanks
5) now the name of everyone who spoke is in column C - Data>Sort on column C
6) now everything each av said is in adjacent rows - count 'em up

Note that, if someone was present, but didn't speak, they won't show in the count. This got a bit better when I added the Mytsitool HUD (I think that's what is was called) I just ran across the freebie so far. But this injects a line in the chat log, announcing whenever an av gets within 20m of me. This changes the process a bit:

7) employ another column (G? can't remember - working from memory) as a secondary sort key. This will sort all the Mystitool entries.

This alll at least makes it easier to count up. One of the venues that I play, however, is very large. Like a middle-school dance, all the avs seem to congregate along the walls rather than up in front of the stage. Unfortunately, that puts the bulk of the avs out of chat range and out of HUD range. Because of this, I have no record of these attendees. Perhaps the venue owner will allow me to hover and object with a logger or forwarder script in the middle of the room?

If I don't go in another direction, I'll probably write an excel macro to do all the above, then create a new worksheet with nothing but 1 line per av. And perhps another sheet with tip records?

This has been working for me so far, as I want to review the room chatter after the performance, anyway. Being a noob, I'm still having issues keeping track of the room chatter while I am performing. (I hope that gets more transparent as time goes on).
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Krell.. umm. .that sounds like a lot of work.  If you wanted to, you could easily play 3 or 4 sets a day... and trying to do that after each show would not be fun.

If you want to get an idea as to how many per show, i would recommend entering the stream info into a browser.

Hit 'refresh' once during your show to get an idea how many are listening to the stream.  It just takes a second, and you can even do it a few times during the show.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My script gives me name, IP address, and credit card number but I think the latter was an extra-cost option.  I've also been trying to get an accurate count of the number of times people engage in virtual sex activity during one of my shows.  They get extra credit if everyone else gets to watch.
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Haroldthe Burrel



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

could always insert a visitor counter script into the tip jar, set it for reasonable distance, then just have to type "say list" after the set and there they all are.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you im me (Ticious Trottier) in world, I have a good freebie visitor counter script.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Repeat after me, meaningless statistics are much more important than sim performance.  Norris' tip about the browser for the listener count is the only one that will not create lag within the sim.

Combine visitor script lag with the personal radars that many people attach and you've probably got a scanner kicking off every five or six seconds.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These days, at least at my place, crowds aren't big enough for lag to be that much of an issue.  And the personal touch you can get with a list a of names can go a long way to keeping the crowd size up and maybe even getting them back to the point where we need to be routinely worried about lag and sim crashes  Very Happy .

Btw, I have visitor counter scripts installed at both venues, set to scan once per minute.  A once per minute scan creates very little extra lag load.
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Krell Karu



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Norris Shepherd wrote:
Krell.. umm. .that sounds like a lot of work.  

Well, it is a bit. However, as I said, I'm going back and reading the chat anyhow - to get a sense of what was going on in the room. (I can't quite seem to keep track of it in-the-moment - maybe that will change as I get used to getting all my input through a 26" window.) The method used adds maybe a 10% time burden. It'd probably be less than 5% if I macro-ized it.

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If you want to get an idea as to how many per show, i would recommend entering the stream info into a browser.


I tried that last night. I was surprised to see that there were less listeners than there were avs near the stage. What's that all about? <--- umm - rhetorical

I don't know if I will keep on using the method I described forever. For now, though, it works for me.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ticious wrote:
If you im me (Ticious Trottier) in world, I have a good freebie visitor counter script.


Thanx, Ticious. I'll likely take you up on your offer.
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