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PhoenixG · Joined: 19 Oct 2009 Posts: 2

I just tried to play a set and everyone could hear me, but not the music. Below is a link showing everything I have. I have the mic in the mic in jack on the mixer, the MP3 player in the back jacks, and the mixer plugged into the line in jack in my PC. PLEASE HELP! I keep getting conflicting information and I'm almost in tears. I was told Behringer was a great brand for SL and this has the mixer and reverb on it.

http://vivdiva.homestead.com/slvocals.html

Blindboy Gumbo · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:01 am Post subject:

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PhoenixG · Joined: 19 Oct 2009 Posts: 2

This was my first time using it. Yes, the MP3 player was turned up. I also swapped it out with my CD player to make sure the MP3 player wasn't the issue. Everything was connected.

DjaiSkjellerup · Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 470

To eliminate possibilities do the following....

1) Leave out the microphone and the mixer and just connect the MP3 player into your soundcard. What happens when you do this? I would expect this to work and your soundcard to pick up the incoming signal.

2) Presuming the above worked then next disconnect the MP3 player altogether and just use the mic through the mixer and plug the mixer into your soundcard. I presume this will work as I think you had this working already so you have a signal from your mic like this yeah?

3) Now...presuming you have the right cables to do this...are you able to leave the mixer as it is and disconnect the mic then plug the MP3 player into the connection on the mixer that the mic was using? Assuming you can do this then does the signal from the MP3 player reach the laptop ok?

4) Presuming point 3 works then plug your microphone back into that connection and look again the input you were originally using for your MP3 player. Are you sure they are the right connections and do they have their own volume control and is this turned up?

At the very least this should help you isolate where the problem is...
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RayW · Joined: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 942 Location: Twin Cities, MN

Hmmmmm .. I was going to say that it must be in your mix. But, you have a different mixer linked to your site than you had yesterday .. and it's an Alesis, not a Behringer.

What gives? I was going to look at the specs of the mixer AGAIN. And there is ALWAYS the chance that one of the channels on a mixer goes bad.

But, the other thing I was going to say before the Mixer mix-up ... I always run my signals HOT to the streaming SW (BUTT in this case, SimpleCast in mine) just to see the levels BEFORE I start my shows .. each channel gets tested for working and output levels .. RIGHT AT THE BROADCAST POINT. You should be able to do this by powering on the software but not connecting to a particular stream (BUTT maybe not). At least twice this has saved a show because I could see I was flat-lined and needed to find where the disconnect was.

Anyway, hope you get both working together. Good luck.
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Norris Shepherd · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:14 pm Post subject:

I'm kind of thinking along the same lines as Djai.

Your soundcard probably only has one 'line-in', and it is being used by the mixer.

**Option A:**

- plug your mp3 player into the mixer using something similar to these:

http://accessories.musiciansfrien...win-RCA-Female-Adapter?sku=335202

http://accessories.musiciansfrien...RCA14-Dual-Patch-Cable?sku=330489

plug the two cables into 'line in3' and 'line in 4' on your mixer. Mix to taste.

**Option B:**

Get rid of your mp3 player and play the tracks directly from your computer. (store them on the hard drive). I suspect this option might just create another set of problems though....

If are able to plug your mp3 player into the mixer, or can get the connectors, I'd try that.
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Fyrm Fouroux · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:17 pm Post subject:

RayW · Joined: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 942 Location: Twin Cities, MN

Hey, Phoenix ... Yep .. I'm going with what Norris said .. need that patch cable, though.

Monitor at the mixer. But, check your levels on BUTT and adjust accordingly.

I had another thought about that other mixer you were showing .. the mp3 input may have ben muted. That "feature" is found a lot on Karaoke machines so that you can move to a spot without it going out in the mix.

But, I think this mixer is a good choice, too.
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Krell Karu · Joined: 18 Jul 2008 Posts: 45

Hi Phoenix -

We can certainly help you sort this out, but probably not without more information.

Others have already commented on the conflict between the Behringer that you spoke of, and the Alesis that your page links to. Please make a definitive statement as to make and model.

I wouldn't worry about replacing anything just yet. All brands and models should work, but we cannot give concrete advice (e.g. 'plug the headphone output of the MP3 player to the Line In 3 and Line In 4 1/4" jacks on your mixer using the cables Norris referenced) without specifics.

You mention "the MP3 player in the back jacks". What back jacks? On the mixer? What is the nomenclature on the jacks?

How are you listening to the MP3 player? Headphones? Are they plugged into the MP3 player or into the mixer?

Lacking any concrete info to go on, I offer the following suggestions. The first thing to do is to ensure you are able to hear exactly what you are streaming.

The simplest way to do this is to ensure you are streaming exactly what the mixer is sending to the computer. Accordingly, plug both the mic and the MP3 player into separate channels on the mixer. If your mixer has a stereo channel, use that single channel for both the left and right outputs of your MP3 player.

Run the mixer's Main L & R outputs to your computer's line in.

Now procure some headphones, and plug them into the headphone jack on the mixer. Most of the cheaper mixers have no separate cue system. Accordingly, they send the exact same mix to the headphones as to the main outs. More elaborate mixers let you have a different balance in the headphones as compared to the main outs. If your mixer is the latter, things get more involved. This is where more definitive make/model would be helpful.

Set the balance between voice and MP3 in the headphones. This same balance will then be sent out the mixer's main outs, into the computer's line in, thereby to your streaming SW, and thereby to SL.

Looking at the Alesis, the supplied documentation does not state whether or not the headphone has the same mix as the main (and USB) outs. They don't even supply a block signal flow diagram. However, it is probably a safe bet that they are the same - headphone, Main, and USB.

I don't use BUTT. Make sure that it is set to get its signal from the sound card line in (or wherever else the mixer is fed to the computer). Is it possible that you had this setting misconfigured, and BUTT was instead getting its signal from a built-in microphone on your computer? This might explain why your voice was being broadcast, but not your backing tracks.

I note that the Alesis you link to also includes a USB out. All the above still stands if you use the USB out, with the modification of treating the USB as the Main L & R in the above discussion.

Hope this helps...
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